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ApHC Board opposes horse slaughter ban

The Appaloosa Horse Club Board of Directors voted in a December meeting to oppose passage of Senate Bill1915 (H.R. 503), the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. According to President Dennis Dean, “ApHC agrees with other opposition groups that believe this legislation sets a dangerous precedent by banning a livestock product for reasons other than food safety or public health.”

A more detailed explanation of the board’s position will be posted soon on the appaloosa.com web site.

24 Comments

  1. Lisa Garcia Said,

    January 4, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

    I agree with the Clubs position on this issue. It is a sad fact of life.
    just like dog pounds. As much as we love our horses they are after all livestock, and sometimes it becomes necessary to take this kind of action even when it is unpleasent. Can you imagine what would happen if all animal shelters stopped performing that function?…

    Lisa garcia

  2. Ann Said,

    January 6, 2007 @ 8:18 pm

    Oh swell…the organization that represents our breed approves of sending them to kill-pens and dinner tables overseas, that’s just great!

  3. James Kelley Said,

    January 9, 2007 @ 5:14 pm

    This is a difficult issue, and a sad truth…..the point I always like to address in this issue is to the small, backyard breeders that decide it would be a good idea to bred old Susie one time, just for the experience of having a foal,,,,most everyone does it,,, I did. But do the math, you could buy a foal from a existing breeding farm, with what it will end up costing you to raise your own,,,,ask around!,,, and what happens to all these loved babies in the end??? Thinks about it. You want to make a big difference in this area of a horses life, stop bringing life into the world who’s end will be a slaughter house. Do some research, ever heard of someone finding a past world champion at a slaughter house, and wondered how it got there?,, it happens. Shop around, take your time, and buy the exact baby you want from a reputable breeder. Put old Susie to rest at a ripe old age. That would add up to three horses at least that don’t end up in the slaughter house, right? James Kelley

  4. annie Said,

    January 14, 2007 @ 4:15 pm

    Shame on the Board of Directors for not allowing the membership to vote on this important issue. Your postion statement was nothing more than a spewing of propaganda with little facts.

    You should have allowed representatives from both sides to address the membership in factual articles in the Journal and then allowed the membership to vote.

  5. Dar-KDJJ Appaloosas Said,

    January 16, 2007 @ 7:33 am

    As difficult as it is to address, I support ApHC and their/our stand on this issue. It has been, and always will be, a sad but Necessary! part of the horse industry.
    Dar~
    http://www.kdjjappaloosas.com

  6. Carrie Giannandrea Said,

    January 24, 2007 @ 7:33 am

    I commend the ApHC BOD for taking the position AGAINST the Ban on Slaughtering Horses. The group pushing this bill through Congress has not come up with any economical alternatives to this industry. Furthermore, if you ban the slaughter of horses, what is next? Banning the slaughter of sheep, cattle, pigs, chickens, etc?? Just because “most” people in the United States do not eat horse meat, does not mean the rest of the world doesn’t!

    Stop breeding so many horses, then there will be no need to slaughter them and in turn, the horse prices will go up!

    Carrie Giannandrea
    Dances with Horses
    Formula One Farms

  7. ann jentz Said,

    January 24, 2007 @ 1:32 pm

    I agree with the position of the BOD. While I do not intend to send horses to that type of auction there has to be a way to dispose of unwanted animals. I find it far more troubling to see them standing out in some field starving to death because nobody is taking care of them or wants them.

  8. mary m Said,

    January 26, 2007 @ 5:16 pm

    did you know that the commonhorsesense site is registered to the lawyer for the slaughter plant?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfrZcu73xA&eurl=

    http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/winter02/blindeye.htm

    http://www.saplonline.org/slaughtervhumaneeuth.htm

    everything you need to know is here:

    http://www.kaufmanzoning.net/horsemeat

  9. Marilyn Wilson Said,

    January 26, 2007 @ 6:56 pm

    Ann you’re correct about your organization not polling their own, AQHA did the same thing, 17 of them decided for the lot of them, it’s just wrong.

    Many people think that the only horses that make this journey are those that are too old, too injured, or too sick to be useful to their owners or to anyone else except as dog food or as glue. This is not the purpose of these plants. Their purpose is to supply horsemeat to diners in other countries. Horsemeat is a delicacy in France, Belgium, and Japan, and tens of thousands of young, healthy American horses a year are brutally slain to supply this for them.

    The horses supplied to these facilities may be stolen (as occurred to a horse that belonged to a Texas Representative). They may have been a family pet that was purchased at auction. Killer buyers frequently misrepresent the sale of a horse by telling the sellers they are “buying their horse for a child” and “it’s going to a good home”. (Texas State Representative Charlie Howard (R-Sugarland) learned that his stolen horses ended up at a Texas slaughter plant. He said this on the floor of the Texas House of Representatives on April 23, 2003 during the debate over Bloody Betty Brown’s HB 1324 to legalize the two Texas horse slaughter plants.)

  10. Sharon Crumb Said,

    January 26, 2007 @ 7:42 pm

    It is such a shame that this organization supports slaughter of their magnificent breed along with all other horses.

    Carrie seems to think that banning horse slaughter will lead to banning slaughter of sheep, cattle, pigs, chicken, etc. Now why would people do that? We do eat that meat here in the US, but it is illegal to eat horse here. So why support their slaughter when we are not eating their meat, but people overseas are and the Belgian owners do not even pay but 5.00 taxes a year to the US to be able to kill our horses and make 20 to 40 dollars a pound off their meat. Anyone who supports foreigners coming in our country killing something we do not eat so they can go back home rich, well that is un-American.
    As for the people who want the ban, there are big things happening, but the right people will know at the right time. Nobody is going to give pro slaughter another thing to pounce on and destroy. Wait and see Carrie, you will be so surprised how much these horses have purpose and are wanted.

  11. Terri Said,

    January 27, 2007 @ 8:51 am

    I do NOT support the Appaloosa Horse Club’s stance on the horse slaughter bill. What they are telling people in essence is that this breed is best on someone’s dinner plate (before, during or after use as foals end up there too as do pregnant mares, young horses). What a way to promote the breed!! I agree wholeheartedly with those who say that if you want to keep prices up, breed responsibly because 1% of your horses will end up at the slaughter house (some of them even stolen out of your barns, pastures, or boarding facilities because horse theft is rising, and why not? slaughter houses are a great way to dispose of the evidence and get paid for doing so). Look at Net Posse Stolen Horse Internation to see more about this. There are so many alternatives to getting rid of the horse that you no longer want, death isn’t the only answer. Also, if 1% of the total horse population is slaughtered, and 10% dies of other causes, surely the horse community can absorbe that 1% to replace the horses in the 10%. When facing the end of life decision, the pro slaughter faction claims ungodly fees for a vet to humanely euthanize the animal and the rendering company to pick it up. Fact is, I faced that when my App was critically injured and the cost was minimal. Horse slaughter is all about making money and irresponsible breeding and ownership. It is NOT a sad fact of life. Taxes and death are the sad facts (just a little humor, sorry). I was a member of the Appaloosa Horse Club but am not currently and will never be again unless they change their stance. The Appaloosa horse and it’s history is far more valuable to send overseas as meat for a rich foreigner to consume and the foreigners who own the companies over here to make millions of dollars and not pay federal income taxes while we continue to slave away at our jobs and pay to support an industry that goes against our own culture. Americans don’t eat horsemeat. It is not part of our culture so why should this country host an industry and do their dirty work for them so that they can get fatter and richer from it. Shame on the Appaloosa Horse Club and shame on the pro slaughter faction for their lies and especially their greed.

  12. Sandra Church Said,

    January 27, 2007 @ 12:06 pm

    Being the owner of 2 appaloosas, I am very disappointed in the directors who oppose the ban to end horse slaughter. American horses are not bred and born to be butchered while cattle, hogs, chickens, etc. are bred and born (or hatched) to be butchered. This is a cruel business, starting with the low-end auctions and then the hauling by layered death traps (double decker trailers designed for cattle) and finally the actual killing. Horses’ hearts must still be pumping as they hang from hooks so that they will bleed out properly. There is a book “Alternatives To Auction and Slaughter: A Guide for Equine Owners” that every horse owner should read. Any horse owner that can not afford a proper “ending” for his horse, should not own a horse to begin with. Please reconsider your position on horse slaughter.

  13. Robin Wright Said,

    January 28, 2007 @ 1:50 pm

    I can certainly understand your stance on the issue. Most all breed registeries income is based on registrations and futurities. More registrations and futurity breeding entries mean more money and growth.

    The issues of responsible breeding, standards for stallions, and the promotion of older horses is and will always be a non-income issue for registries with no foresight.

    It really too bad you and other breed registries do not understand these issues as you have the key in your pocket to help stop the mass overbreeding of horses.

    When registered horses sell to slaughter buyers for the price of a goat, don’t you think something is really wrong with your thinking and needs to be changed?

    As long as greed is an issue the only thing that will suffer will be the horses.

  14. James Kelley Said,

    January 30, 2007 @ 8:00 pm

    I say, do your part, not ranting about what’s going on above your head, although that does need to be addressed, but if you’re not doing your part, you really don’t deserve to be heard. Stop breeding your “regional champion” stud to your favorite mare, and raising yet another ‘middle of the road’ foal. I know all the reasons for doing this, as I have done it myself, but if you really are concerned about the welfare of your horses, which is what this boils down to, don’t create them. I myself revised my complete program, just because of this problem. I couldn’t stand wondering what happened to that foal I raised and sold to “so and so”, wondering if they still have him, the quality of people they sold him too, etc. The majority of these horses lives end at the slaughter house. Just think about the thousands of the miniature horses that are produced each year as ‘pets’. Get the horses you need, enjoy them, and have them humanely put to sleep when you and the vet decides to do so. Problem solved, and the issue of slaughter horses will have a big dent in it, if we all do this. I went the usual route in my life, after I got into showing horses, I bought a mare and ended up breeding her a few times because I liked her, to better quality studs each time, but in reality, the quality of my horses were mediocre, and most likely some of them will end up in the slaughter house, God forbid. So, I really analyzed what I was doing, and decided what I would do is breed for a really nice stallion, and stand him at stud utilizing transported semen. It will give me the pleasure of being in the business, being able to look out my window at my beautiful horse, in a big well manicured paddock, which is what really “does it for me.” One horse basically, no more babies. I will not raise another baby that will not be a world or national contender, and I also will not fool myself into “hoping” they would be. These are just my own personal thoughts, and what I’ve done, but it puts a stop to me contributing to the problem, because of my own selfish, delusional reasons for breeding new life into the world. I no longer have to worry about ‘my horses’.

  15. Jan P Said,

    February 1, 2007 @ 8:56 am

    While a difficult and emotional issue, I commend the ApHC BOD for their stance on slaughter. Just because a horse may go to slaughter certainly doesn’t mean they go to a dinner table. There are other uses for the horse that is run thru an auction ring and purchased by a “canner buyer”. While hard to understand in some instances, there are many animals that would be treated worse if “rescued”, likewise, there are those that are dangerous.
    Thank you ApHC BOD for taking this stance.

  16. James Kelley Said,

    February 3, 2007 @ 10:39 am

    I just read a article today where several thoroughbred Kentucky Derby winners lifes actually ended in a slaughter house, after loosing their fertility.

  17. Patty Baker Said,

    February 15, 2007 @ 7:40 pm

    I agree with the stand the ApHC board has taken and I’ve devoted my whole life to raising and training horses. Horses are expensive to keep and I’ve seen MUCH abuse with horses under feed and treated poorly in owners back yards. When there is no place to send these unwanted horses then we will see real abuse.

  18. Dennis D. Bohnet Said,

    March 15, 2007 @ 7:16 am

    I absolutely commend the ApHC for their stand against ending slaughter for consumption which remains the only truely viable means to dispose of unwanted, unhealthy, old or dangerous animals.

    For those who would end slaughter surely you must realize that the rescues are overcrowded as are the BLM lands. Horses are even now being starved or turned loose to fend for themselves – ever seen what a car that hits a 200 lb deer looks like? Imagine a 700 – 1000lb horse in the same scenario. There is no longer much of a market for renderers because there’s no demand to make glue or dog food, cattle supply most leather needs. In most Fl counties it’s illegal to bury a horse and the landfills won’t take them so just what is your bright solution to this ever growing problem?

    No, reducing breeding will not make the problem go away, there will continue to be horses that are old, dangerous, sick and/or unwanted with no market for them and no means to dispose of them.

  19. Neal Burgoyne Said,

    March 15, 2007 @ 8:06 am

    I would like to take this moment to applaud the ApHC for taking a stance and standing by in the face of such comments as they have beengetting. I compltely agree with them on the slaughter issue. Recently I have spent quite a bit of time emailing and calling my congressional representatives to ask them to vote against the ban on Equine Slaughter. Even though my Rep did vote against the bill it still passed by way too big of a margin for my liking.
    I have a different look on the slaughter issues compared to many people being as besides the light horses I come from a draft horse background and beef cattle. In the draft horse world, slaughter seems to be more accepted than in the light horse industry. Of course being in the cattle business slaughter is an everyday way of life.

    I just hope the everybody out there who is so opposed to equine slaughter is prepared to open their barn doors to all the horses that will be left starving in pastures or turned loose in open fields once the slaughter houses are no longer able to take them.

    Neal Burgoyne
    Moon Disk Farm

  20. James Kelley Said,

    July 5, 2007 @ 8:16 pm

    ,,,reducing breeding would put a huge dent in the problem of unwanted horses, how could anyone say otherwise,,,simple math.

  21. Jess Said,

    March 14, 2008 @ 12:11 pm

    I raise, breed, show, EAT, love, and train animals of all shapes and sizes. Here are some cons and then pros about horse slaughter…

    Cows are just cows. With horses you can ride them, they pull carts, and you can show them.

    Ever herd of 4-H where you show market or breeding cattle? Or herd of an ox pull a cart for transpiration, work, or enjoyment? I even rode my uncle’s cow Lucy around the pasture. The difference? People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.

    Horses have feelings and it’s wrong to eat horse…

    Why is it wrong to eat horse but not swine, cattle, poultry, goat, and so on? Are we not designed to eat meat? Yeah, sure horses feel, but so do other livestock. They can get sick and die, bleed if cut, cry if hurt. I have a 4-H steer who cut his lip and had tears role down his face. The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.

    It’s inhumane…

    I will agree that not all slaughter plants are humane, but not all are inhumane. Some take very could care of their livestock. Would you prefer to raise a horse for slaughter that only ways 700 lbs. and is sick or a 1200 lbs. that is healthy? The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.

    Horses aren’t food they are pets and show love to their owners…

    So do swine, cattle, poultry, goat, and so on. I raise, as I said above, many different varieties of animals including horses. I have a pig who will let me get in with her and her piglets, pick up a squealing baby, and not even have her bat an eye at me. While when my friend goes near her piglets she threatens to bite. She knows me, trust me, and LOVES me. Oh that’s right there just stupid animals, right? I don’t think so. Horses are a prey animal, meaning other animals (such as humans) prey on them! The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.

    Its better to use euthanization on a horse then use a captive bolt….

    I have had animals that were sadly to week, hurt, sick, what ever to go on in life. Not always is euthanization a good death as the word means. Sometimes they may struggle, cry our, or luckily pass on without a sign of pain. Captive bolts are delivered into the brain (most often) killing the horse instantly. But we are only human and sometimes a second captive bolt shot may need to be used. The difference. People think of a horse as a horse and a steer as a hamburger.

    This is the US of A and we do not agree with consumption of horses…

    We? I am an AMERICAN and I am FOR horse slaughter. Besides isn’t America the land of the free? What gives us a right to say ‘Hey you cant do that!’ or ‘you cant eat that’!? Some people think it is horrible that we could even consider consummation of beef and swine. Should we stop eating it because other say it is wrong? I sure as heck won’t! I LOVE my meat! And what about vegetarians who are just completely not for slaughter. Should we stop eating meat completely to satisfy them?

    Besides you don’t want to eat horses cause they feel pain. Scientists have done a study and found plants react to pain and comfort. Now are we going to just starve?

    This is my opinion. I don’t wish to offend anyone. I am against inhumane slaughter, but not slaughter itself. Those against slaughter need to look in a mirror. We eat to survive. With out food we die.

  22. acr Said,

    April 10, 2008 @ 11:59 am

    if you reduce breeding then how are you going to insure the that genetics in the breeds and help to continue improving horses

  23. pot Said,

    April 10, 2008 @ 12:01 pm

    RIDE THE BEST, EAT THE REST
    my personal slogan

  24. kk Said,

    January 15, 2009 @ 10:41 am

    I do not agree with the way the horses are treated on the way to the slaughter house. However, has enyone come up with a better solution. I for one cannot afford to take my horse to the vet when it needs to be put down. I think that enstead of just baning horse slaughter we should enforce laws that better the treatment of the horses on the way to the slaughter house and while they are there.

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